Knoll's Black Forest Inn, a fixture on Wilshire in Santa Monica since 1982, closes for good on Saturday. Chris Nichols posts from the Pasadena Star-News on the LottaLiving website:
Regarded by many as the best German restaurant in the Los Angeles area for decades, Knoll's started in 1960 as "a small coffee shop with just a counter and a few stools' at 124 Santa Monica Blvd., Santa Monica.The Knolls expanded over the years and eventually moved in 1982 to their present site.
A four-star awardee by the California Restaurant Writers Association, Knoll's not only has excelled in its authentic traditional German fare, but has kept up with modern changes in the food of Germany. Swabian dumplings with a variety of sauces, a smoked trout salad and smoked salmon soup are just a few of their newer German items.
The L.A. Conservancy Modern Committee, which lives online at that site, also is seeking anyone who knows the original color scheme of the Foster's Freeze signage that used to be all over Southern California. The American Sign Museum in Cincinnati is trying to restore a sign from suburban L.A.
Somewhat related: Friends of the Raymond Theatre in Pasadena let fly today an urgent call for funds to help save the theatre from being gutted while a court case is being appealed.
(Edited 5:30 p.m. on Feb. 25)
Branch Hawthornians heh heh...
Here's what the sign museum starts with:
The sign is a double-faced, neon-illuminated sign with an ice cream cone graphic in which the ice cream is actually inset white plastic illuminated with an incandescent bulb. It's been painted over several times and is currently blue with white text. owever, an orange border around the edge of the sign is discernible underthe paint layers.
Posted by: Kevin Roderick at February 24, 2004 08:18 PMMight give your link to the Friends of the Raymond website a look, it comes up as Not Found when clicked and in the status bar shows as http://www.laobserved.com/www.raymondtheatre.com
Posted by: Will Campbell at February 25, 2004 09:14 AMWorks now. Thanks..
Posted by: Kevin Roderick at February 25, 2004 09:57 AMAs it happens, I was purposelessly driving down Fletcher today and saw what I think is an original Fosters sign, and sure enough it was navy blue with white text. This sign is so old it has a drawing of a cone on it, which I think precedes even the old and now-gone sign in Hawthorne. I took a photo with my old Nikon F but who knows when I'll develop this roll.
What an FF is still doing on Fletcher just south of San Fernando Road, in a tawdry, traintrack tainted commercial strip of masonry lots and strip bars is an amazing story in itself I'm sure.
Posted by: joseph at February 25, 2004 01:45 PMSadly, it seems that most of the Foster's Freezes left survive in less desirable spots. Not counting the bogus FF's that share rent with El Pollo Locos. Those are FF's in signage only.
I seldom indulge a Foster's Freeze craving, but sometimees -- usually when I'm on on the road -- it's the only thing that will do.
Posted by: Kevin Roderick at February 25, 2004 02:25 PM

I keep meaning to go to that LA modern committee meeting but missing the meetings. Damn, why don't they ever notify people by email?
I'm pretty sure the original FF color scheme was white on navy blue. The guy to ask would be John Baker ( john14@cougartown.com ), who maintains a nostalgia website devoted to his (and my )old high school, Hawthorne High, and has a wild stash of old photos of Hawthorne landmarks.
Fosters played a big role in Hawthorne because it was the Beach Boys' hangout of choice. This franchise is still there, and it has only recently changed its old sign:
http://www.cougartown.com/fosters.html
Believe it or not, there are still Hawthornians (I might term them Branch Hawthornians) who still in 2004 get together in vintage 1950's sturdy Detroit iron and cruise from Fosters Freeze down Hawthorne Boulevard. They have staged ten such cruise nights in the past five years. Lynn's sister has a mint 61 Continental convertible with suicide doors, and so I have been quite tempted to join them during one of these episodes.
Posted by: joseph at February 24, 2004 07:43 PM