What was Gregg thinking

At the end of a long screed against Quentin Tarantino over Kill Bill, New Republic blogger Gregg Easterbrook suddenly singles out Harvey Weinstein and Michael Eisner because they are Jewish. Easterbrook is suitably scorned by Roger L. Simon in a post that is about to surpass 100 comments.

Update: Roger and Instapundit Glenn Reynolds are rescinding a recent pile-on of Ed Asner that was based on an erroneous report by a radio talk jock who also writes for WorldNet.

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Gregg Easterbrook simply points out the obvious. Hollywood is dominated by left-of-center secular non-Jewish Jews who consistently drag down this country with their filth. Jewish Jews (those who observe the Torah) despise Tarantino and most of what Hollywood (TV, movies, music) produces. Good on Gregg for having the courage to point this out.

Writing movies about the Holocaust does not qualify one as an expert on this matter. Knowing the sacred texts of the Jewish tradition and observing them does.

Gregg knows the Jewish Bible far better than secular Hollywood Jews like Roger Simon do. That's why he stands up for Biblical values and points the finger for blame where it belongs - godless Hollywood Jews like Michael Eisner and company.

Posted by: Luke Ford at October 15, 2003 06:08 PM

Excuse me, but nowhere in his piece does Easterbrook make a distinction between secular and non-secular jews. Of course, neither did Hitler.

Posted by: SJ at October 15, 2003 06:23 PM

Speaking as a veteran journalist covering the business and politics of Hollywood, I am APPALLED by Easterbrook's attack on Eisner and Weinstein as "Jewish executives [who] worship money above all else, by promoting for profit the adulation of violence." Decry the gore of "Kill Bill," fine. Slam the people behind the film, fine. But blame it on the Jews, or even imply that Jewish executives in the entertainment business deserve more blame for greediness than their gentile colleagues when they all greenlight violent films? Disgusting. Easterbrook has a right to his opinion, but it seems to be a sickening anti-Semitic opinion, and I'm ashamed for him. {Full Disclosure: I'm Jewish.)

Posted by: Nikki Finke at October 15, 2003 08:48 PM

About two thirds of movie and TV producers are Jewish. Ergo, what they make reflects on Jews.

This is a shame for many reasons but it is a fact. Unfortunately, the Jews of Hollywood are not representative of Jews or the Jewish tradition or Judaism. The Jews of Hollywood tend to the perverse and God-fearing Jews like me suffer for it.

Gregg did not need to distinguish between secular and religious Jews in Hollywood because 99% of Jews in Hollywood are not religious Jews.

It's like distinguishing between the secular and the religious news media. Most everyone in the news media is secular. When was the last time you met someone in the news media who believed in the pro-life abortion is murder position? I bet you have not.

Posted by: Luke Ford at October 15, 2003 09:05 PM

Leaving aside whatever I might think of Quentin Tarantino's films as a critic, I have to say I'm far more shocked by Gregg Easterbrook's and Luke Ford's comments than anything I've ever seen in those films.

I can barely believe my eyes: "..left-of-center, secular non-Jewish Jews who consistently drag down this country with their filth"!!!??? "Jewish executives who worship money above all else"!!!???

With all respect Mr. Ford (and I'm sincere), when times turn bad, it's not you but your worst enemies who tend to define membership in your religious or ethnic community. Although I'm certain they'd be glad to borrow portions of your rhetoric when drawing up those definitions.

As for Easterbrook, there is no question that he is stigmatizing the entire Jewish community. He uses broad, indiscriminate, and unambiguous terms.

And full disclosure: I'm not Jewish. But under these circumstances, if there's an honorary auxiliary, I'd be glad to join it(as long as there aren't too many meetings).

Posted by: Henry Sheehan at October 15, 2003 09:54 PM

If you think Luke Ford is great here, just head over to his home page where he claims date rape isn't rape at all! It's a big day for you, isn't it Mr. Ford? Might as well get it all out there for the world to see.

Posted by: Pass Thru at October 15, 2003 10:05 PM

It's pretty obvious, from reading Mr. Ford's site, that he's either medium-grade crazy or just a troll. I put it as even money on both.

Posted by: anon at October 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Just a word of welcome to Henry Sheehan to the tribe. You'll be getting the sign-up kit and a big raise shortly.

Luke will be sending you his orthodox Judaism kit, which includes both tefilin and a porno magazine that will teach you how to use them for bondage... techinques that Luke's rabbi doesn't approve of... but Luke's working on that. Luke might also be inquiring about any blonde family members under 25.

Also, you might want to avoid chatting with Luke about the religious right in Israel that has a great deal of Palestinian and Israeli blood on their hands. He may try to take you for a ride in his van.

Posted by: David Poland at October 16, 2003 01:49 PM

It's just like an atheistic secular humanistic non-Torah Jew to drag down a lofty discussion of eternal values into a tawdry examination of personal weakness. Yes, there are moments in my life when I do not live up to the highest demands of the Torah, but that does not mean I abandon fighting for God and goodness, even in the heart of the secular wasteland.

BTW, any single Jewish girls of legal age but under 35 who have not yet fulfilled the divine obligation to shake the lulav may do so in my succah. Then we can go for a ride in my van. I'm looking for someone with whom I gave chemistry and share common values. If she's hot, that's a divine blessing.

God bless you all in your legitimate endeavors (and that includes you non-Torah Jews in Hollywood).

Posted by: Luke Ford at October 16, 2003 02:07 PM

Easterbrook did publish an apology and a clarification of what he was getting at.

http://www.tnr.com/easterbrook.mhtml

Posted by: Bob Timmermann at October 16, 2003 11:57 PM

How dare you make a distinction between "secular" and non "secular" Jews. No distinction was made in the death camps.

Posted by: Ron Got at December 3, 2003 09:12 PM
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