Dargis arrives *

Manohla Dargis' first film review for the New York Times runs in today's paper. A.O. Scott takes Open Water; she reviews the L.A. movie.

In Collateral, the edgy new thriller from the director Michael Mann, the city never sleeps; it doesn't even relax. Set in Los Angeles mostly after dark, after the city's sunshine has given way to cool noir, the story centers on a taxi driver, Max (Jamie Foxx), and the assassin Vincent (Tom Cruise), who hops a ride with him deep into the night. As the pair cover the city, looping over interchanges and down wide open boulevards, they travel a landscape alive with wild animals and wilder men, noisy with unfamiliar music and chatter, and punctured by the hard pop of occasional gunfire.

It's always interesting to see how writers from the L.A. Times take to the tighter, more rigorous copy editing in New York. Readers more familiar with the Dargis style will have to judge how much of her voice made it into this first effort at getting through the desk there. It's just the first of many to come, of course. I can tell you it's about 1,100 words, a bit longer than her last review for the L.A. Times: The Bourne Supremacy.

* Scott weighs in on Collateral: In Sunday's paper.

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I ran into Manohla last night at the Rick Hertzberg/John Powers confab and told her that, seeing as she's just penned the beiggest rave of hsi career, she should be expecting a call from Mr.Mapother. He has made it known that he is looking to marry once again and Manohla's an enormous improvement on Penelope -- and veen Nicole.

Posted by: David Ehrenstein at August 6, 2004 08:22 AM

Hopefully she'll get a call from her psychotherapist. Kevin must have forgotton to share this oddity:

"Collateral" is very much the product of a distinct vision, one as eager to push technological limits (the film was shot with the most advanced video cameras) as to upend the usual studio white-hero/black-villain formula. For the director, such casting isn't a sop to political correctness, but a reflection of his city's demographics.

The usual studio white-hero/black-villain formula???
To tne New York Times, thanks for taking away our garbage. Pauline Kael laughs at you from the grave.

Posted by: Del at August 6, 2004 10:21 AM

"Upend the usual white hero/black villain formula"? What era of film history is Dargis referencing here? Has she been watching Fred Williamson movies? A little "Black Ceasar", anyone?

And, for the record, Mann's films have always been cast with racial diversity in mind. The racially mixed cast of his other L.A. epic, "Heat", is a good case in point.

Posted by: Rodger Jacobs at August 6, 2004 02:53 PM

Well, I can't say I'll miss her riveting insights. Will the NYTimes give her bandwidth so she can explain what she means? And would she become Manhola Mapother?

Posted by: KateCoe at August 6, 2004 09:16 PM

How that got past the editors, I have no idea, since it's only INSANE!

I don't want to ovreruse a theme but, regarding the NYT "stealing" Ms. Dargis from the LAT...

NEW YORK TIMES GOT PUNK'ED!!!

I loved the remark about "the most advanced video cameras," as if she were writing for Nickelodeon magazine.
We shall presume that she meant "Hi Def Digital Video," and it's been around for a while now, so it can be directly referenced without causing her NYT readers to have to ask their moms what it means.

Posted by: Del at August 6, 2004 10:20 PM

Collateral was not just shot with ordinary "hi def digital video" equipment, but with a modified Thomson Grass Valley Viper FilmStream camera which happens to be among "the most advanced video cameras." I suspect that Manohla Dargis originally included at least some of that specific information in her review but had it deleted by an editor. As the camera (and some others) had a particular effect on the way Collateral looked, Dargis was entirely correct to keep even the general reference in her review.

Any chance of limiting these comment sections to respondents who can push a story forward?

Posted by: Henry Sheehan at August 7, 2004 10:42 AM

>>> Any chance of limiting these comment sections to respondents who can push a story forward?

You're asking a lot...


Posted by: Kevin Roderick at August 7, 2004 11:38 AM

The story is moving along fine, Henry.
This is the story of a valentine from Kevin that went horribly wrong.
Your presumption that her editor made her turn to a remedial descriptiopn seems valid, but what I'd like to know is how she came to believe that black people dominate the "villian" roles in American movies.
I'm sure Morgan Freeman would like to know, since he's recently complained that there aren't enough villian roles given to black actors in American movies.

Got any ideas, Henry? You seem to know a lot about story, and this is your chance to make a contribution!


Posted by: Del at August 7, 2004 01:13 PM

"Del" is the new "Allen." Same festering anger in his comments. Too much free time. Little value added. Just a matter of time before he blows and reveals his bigot side. Check the IP address, Kevin, see if it's him. Or better, get that registration thing going.

Posted by: Save us from the clueless at August 7, 2004 02:06 PM

I enjoy Del's posts. Some are pretty funny. Who are you to be censoring the posts of others, you anonymous nitwit?
If you don't like somebody's post, don't read them.
Get a life, or get a blog.

Posted by: Pete at August 8, 2004 12:43 PM

Actually, this sniping at people expressing their opinion brought to mind that one thing blogs are definitely changing is our media "poser structure."
I used to be that journalists were fairly immune to public criticism regarding their day-to-day veracity and competence.
It used to be, if a journalist said something asinine or just plain incorrect, a correction was buried on some lone page, or a letter or to the editor was printed, and that was about all a journalist was going to have to bear.
Now with these blogsites providing commentary on other established media, readers can deconstruct every aspect of a writer's work, making a writer's incompetence a point of focus for days, and the criticisms read across the nation.
Journailsts like Manohla can't hide behind their publisher's skirts anymore when they do something that reveals their lack of expertise in the field they're covering.
Blogsites are good for the NYT. It let's them know what people really think about them, and makes it harder for them to maintain the old arrogant paternal "rally around our idiot" posturing that brought us Jason Blair.

Posted by: Pete at August 8, 2004 01:17 PM

You make some good points. On what blog does "Del" come out of hiding to share his media wisdom? I'll check it out.

Posted by: save us... at August 8, 2004 01:43 PM
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